dd($sale->groups->toArray());
Does that result in an empty array too?
Yes, i have the good result. But i want to get all the objects "group", and with this code, i get only the attributes into an array...
Remove ->toArray() then.
The difference is basically ->groups() and ->groups. One is the collection/model, the other is the data. I think it's the data you want. Unfiltered, so no ->toJson() or ->toArray()
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